More Name Issues for Cape-Arcona

Do they have someone working for them searching for duplicate fonts names or font names that match 30%?? Pathetic again. Now if it was names Cosmos, that's perhaps another story.. but who cares anyway.

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The two names are different enough. I would have loved to see this go to court, the judge would probably fine the ""big fonthouse" for being petty and wasting his time.

But of course the point is you need a lot of money to even get to court. The system is rigged.

hhp

It's getting really hard to name fonts. Almost every name you think up is taken and most of the time you don't find out until much later. If only there was an easy way to do a search, google helps only part of the time. It's always a good idea to search the major foundries first when you have a good name idea.

Clearly, putting the initials of your foundry before the font name does not stave off the corporate bullying.

> It's getting really hard to name fonts.

You really think so? I've always thought that there are entire categories of names that have yet to be tapped. I have dozens of names in my notebooks, waiting for fonts to latch on to...

BTW

hhp

The best strategy is to make new words.
The term "Portmanteau" describes one way, which is to throw words together (as if into a suitcase).
Hrant is right about the categories.
But also, numbers and codes could be considered.
"AAAZ-270" would top most font lists!

One font name that comes to mind as wonderfully chosen is Parkinson's Azuza: it starts with an "A", it sounds nice, it's kind of memorable due to a town of that name, except the town is spelled "Azusa", which means that the Azuza font still comes up near the top (2nd) in Google. Plus it sort of tips its hat to the famous Tarzana (another SoCal town). And it's palindromic. That's the way to name your fonts.

hhp

Any name will do, as long as it won't potentially confuse fontwise

It´s ridiculous: The unnamed comapany (i may not say the name, it´s all confidental) has written to me tomorrow. They say that Cosmolab is too similar to Cosmos. I may not use any name in which the letters Cosmo appear. I´m now thinking about a new name. Any good ideas?

Astrolab?

How about Kausmo? It sounds the same (at least in English) but doesn't have the C-O-S combination that lawyers seem not to like.

Sorry to hear about your annoyances with the big foundry, Stefan.

Stefan, how about Kosmo or Kosmos (the swedish name for the cosmos)?

Use Somaco, or something like that.

Anyway, I'm pissed. I just found a free font with the same name I've been labeling some sketches with. The worst part is that it's a straight ripoff of a commerical font.

Burphold Colosmo

Colin, I wouldn't sweat it. I have a font I call Addled, and some free font site has a font also called Addled that is a ripoff of Ad Lib. Needless to say, I feel no pressing motivation to change the name of my font.

I'd name it something simular to Apple's first ever system sound: "Sosumi" (so sue me).

2003 is the year of the Rat, despite what the chinese zodiac might tell you. Laywer Rats. It's the year of the font naming threat, the tech lawsuit and the patent dispute-- and it's slowing down an industry that needs some damn accelleration.

I read this on "typophile.com":
From Anonymous:
"I visited Cape-Arcona.com today and saw on their first page, that Cape Arcona took down their font CA COSMOLAB.
Folks, you know they had problems with Berthold because CA renamed his CA COSMO who was to similiar to Bertholds font COSMO.
And after that, Bethold claimed, that the announcement that they renamed the font is not legal and that they must rename CA COSMOLAB to some other name WITHOUT mention that to CA customes. It's insane!
Haha, on a sidenote, they say "thank you" to the "unnamed type foundry" that they made Cape Arcona famous for that."

Here's the official CA press release:

Brothers and Sisters,
Foes & Dissidents
of Cape-Arcona

Announcement
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With this day, Cape Arcona will not sell one of their famous fonts with the name CA Cosmolab-Saturn and CA Cosmolab-Pluto anymore.

Cape Arcona Type Foundry was advised to conceal the backgrounds of this action by an USA based "unnamed type foundry". We will not answer questions to that case, since it was forbidden by our own investigation department: C.A.S.I. - Cape Arconas Bureau of Secret Investigation.

Cape Arcona Type Foundry want to thank you "unnamed type foundry" for your actions who made us more popular then ever and become the "good guys"in the world of font foundries. Thank you!

C.A.D.I.A. - Cape Arcona Department of Illegal Affairs
The Director

> who made us more popular

And them less so! :-)
The power of public communication.
Somebody start a boycott campaign, please!

hhp

With Berthold picking on Thirst, Zang-O and now Cape-Arcona, does anyone want to organize a Boycott Berthold campaign or a BertholdSux font competition?

Hahaha, i got a newsletter from Cape-Arcona (info also on their site). They released their old CA Cosmolab under a new name. it's called "CA Case150903".
I think, this is the date of which Berthold mailed them?

Anyway, they also offer a new freefont and a font catalog.
The funny thing is, that the content of their font catalog is full with correspondece between Cape and hmm, I think Berthold. It's all crossed out, so that nobody knows which "large type foundry" they realy speak about.
Hahaha, this guys are really funny! :)

Here is the official press release:

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Brothers and Sisters,
Foes & Dissidents
of Cape-Arcona

again news from the stronghold
of type design

19-September-2003
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"Laughter cannot be imitated. It comes from the heart." (Bozo the clown)

Brandnew! Cape Arcona releases a BRANDNEW commercial font: CA Case150903.

Also in the news:
Sensation: Cape-Arconas first Font Catalog online!
It reveals the truth of the latest C.A.D.I.A. Files (Cape Arcona Department of Illegal Affairs) and features the new typeface CA Case150903 and the upcoming typeface with the prototype name "SecretAgent"

In other news, Cape Arcona released the free font CA PussyGalore. Made for the legendary Beast Magazine, and released in the past only for a short time. Now available here at the Cape and it comes with a nearly full letter set.

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Slightly stale link: Luc Devroye is covering this story pretty well.

It is good to see Luc Devroye has collected all of that information in to one place. It makes me wonder a couple of things though.

What kind of legal leg do Berthold have to stand on? Can they only go after poeple who "infringe" who are based in Germany or USA?

My feeling would be that any case they got together would fall apart pretty fast in a courtroom.

Wow! I'm delighted with "Burphold Colosmo" from Ann Onymous. I like this name. I love You, "Ann"!

Another proposition: "Old Berth Mo Cos by H. & M. Hurt".

And who can help me to rename my fonts? My story is published on http://fontcity.ru/ev.htm. Messieurs Hunts requested me to change not only fonts names, but foundry and web-site names as well.

Type fraternity! Typeface designers and font names contrivers! Let's fight! Do not surrender! Boycott Berthold!

Thank You. Igor B. Shipovsky.

The skank's letter was interesting... it's obvious from the letter that she can't sue Mr. Shipovsky -- she's suing MyFonts. Which is absurd. The worst that could happen would be that MyFonts would refuse to carry FontCity's stuff anymore. Big whoop. Don't cave in, Igor! You can always sell via PayPal or something.

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